Changer Identification and Mechanics

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Paul Lafountaine
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Hey Bentley, PM me and give me a phone # or Skype address. I'd like to shoot the shit with ya! Don't worry I am trying to be a used car salesman. I kinda like the ole' gal and would like to restore it. Also, I would like to get your location.

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I am slowly plugging away at dismantling and cleaning up the the undercarriage. It has been a slow going process as the surface rust makes it hard to remove the barrels. Have to sand the surface rust off each rod. Before I go to far I thought I would take a few more pic's of the underside. Looks like there may have been a second knee lever.

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Still trying to Identify and undersatand the Mechanics

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Here are a few more pic's. 2 are a portion of the changer block and the other is of the pedals which may help in identifying the builder. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks.

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Re: Changer Identification and Mechanics

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Paul, I take it the first 2 pics are tuning screws. Does it look like the pedals are cast? Look for the telltale seam running lengthwise down the middle. From what I have seen so far my guess is that this is a homemade guitar, a one-off - but built by someone who knew his stuff. Woulda loved to see this baby...
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Re: Changer Identification and Mechanics

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OK Bent, I will explain this as best as I can, however, you have to realize my knowledge is limited and the ole gal was partially disassembled when I received it. The last pictures I posted show a metal block with 10 pins that slide back and forth. They are not tuning screws and are not threaded. As best as I can tell if you go back to the first, fourth, and or fifth pictures I posted; this piece is mounted between the changer fingers and the block with the 4 return springs. I will partially assemble the changer section with this metal block with the pins and take some picture to better explain this tomorrow. This block with the 10 pins was in a bag of parts that I received with the guitar. I think I should have just bought a Stage one guitar.

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Re: Changer Identification and Mechanics

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After much head-scratching, I think that the following diagram explains how it works
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Re: Changer Identification and Mechanics

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Hi Burt, I think you hit the nail on the head with your sketch. I guess the plate with the 10 pins was the missing piece to the puzzle. The guitar has three pedals and one knee lever. Based on standard E9 tuning these are all pull to raise and I think that is what made it so confusing to understand why the second set of fingers. When I look at the mounting for the pedals to the body I see that there was possibly a second knee lever which would be used to lower. Thanks for the insight this has helped me quite a bunch.

Paul
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Burt,
Sorta put me in mind of the Sho Bud fingertip changer..Bill
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Re: Changer Identification and Mechanics

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Hi Bill,

I am glad you chimed in on this. I have never heard of that changer style, but would be interested to learn more. Any info is appreciated. Over the next week or so, I will be posting pictures of the rebuild. I have cleaned up a lot of the parts and am slowly reassembling. Someone painted the undercarriage of this old beauty with black paint of some kind and it is real mess to remove. I am almost done though.

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Paul,
Here is a drawing of the SB fingertip design...Bill
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